Tsl 7 Posted December 5, 2005 But I think faith is playing a role in error. People are against it because they don't like it and because it creeps them out. Marriage is closely intwined with the Christian faith, but it does not belong to it. Pretty much all cultures and religions that I am aware of have some form of marriage. Therefore, I don't believe it is right or fair to look at this and condemn it for being anti-Christian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ender 8 Posted December 5, 2005 I honestly couldn't care less on this subject. I'm not against gay marriage, but the argument has gone on for so long that I just don't care anymore what happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mara 29 Posted December 5, 2005 Actually, arranged marriages have a higher success rate than modern marriages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander 0 Posted December 5, 2005 The numbers of modern marriages compared to arrange marriages is so distant that such a comparison doesn't really work. If they were both statistically equivalent, then things like the success rates could be analyzed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GI_Admiral 2 Posted December 5, 2005 lol I feel i should try to clarify something. Many of you see arranged marriage as they basically get married when they're 5 and then never see each other until they're 18 and then they suddenly get married. That's usually not true. While some cases and in the past it was true, many times, the children have a say in who they'll marry, and it's not done when they're little kids. It's done when they're 20-30. Furthermore, many cultures with arranged marriage place a lot of emphasis on respect and honor, and I guess image. ((I am basing this off of Korean culture so dunno about Indian and what not)). Which will make them stay together even if they don't necessarily love each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsl 7 Posted December 5, 2005 Actually, arranged marriages have a higher success rate than modern marriages. What does that have to do with anything exactly? :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chickenman 9 Posted December 5, 2005 And this has everything to do with faith, no matter what you say. Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Believe it or not, it's not just christians who get married. Believe it or not, there are many people who get married without a ceremony. Believe it or not, atheists can get married. Marriage may have something to do with Christianity, but Chirstianity has nothing to do with marriage. Crazyness, eh? Furthermore, many cultures with arranged marriage place a lot of emphasis on respect and honor, and I guess image. ((I am basing this off of Korean culture so dunno about Indian and what not)). Which will make them stay together even if they don't necessarily love each other. That's what I always say whenever someone brings up that statistic. You'd practically be shunned from your entire culture if you were to leave an arranged marriage. Whereas in cultures where divorce in common, it's not as big a deal if they divorce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Princess 35 Posted December 6, 2005 I think I'm ill. I'm actually agreeing with GI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GI_Admiral 2 Posted December 6, 2005 Oh god, what's this world coming to, GI is sprouting truth!!! :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUnknown 39 Posted December 6, 2005 I support allowing gays to marry. Marriage, contrary to what has been said by some, is not at its core a Christian ceremony. Sure, it can have Christian overtones. To marry, people must get a marriage certificate from the state, not a church. And think about all the marriages you've been to. Doesn't the preacher always say, "by the power invested in me by the state of [insert state]..."? Furthermore, as has been said, if marriage were really a Christian ceremony, then Jews, Atheists, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. would either be forced not to get married or do so in a ceremony not of their faith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mara 29 Posted December 7, 2005 Actually, arranged marriages have a higher success rate than modern marriages. What does that have to do with anything exactly? Someone mentioned it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Princess 35 Posted December 7, 2005 When and where? You're not doing a very good job of defending your point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander 0 Posted December 7, 2005 I took it as she was responding to someone who mentioned arrange marriages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsl 7 Posted December 7, 2005 I mentioned it to point out that love and marriage didn't always go together, even in new testament times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey 1 Posted December 11, 2005 Thanks not what Frank Sinatra says. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander 0 Posted December 11, 2005 Love and marriage... dododo... Love and marriage... dododo... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ana 15 Posted December 11, 2005 Copy and pasted from my friend's LJ: 12 reasons why gay people should not be allowed to get married. 1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control. 2. Heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce children. Infertile couples and old people can't legally get married because the world needs more children. 3. Obviously, gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children. 4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage is allowed, since Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful. 5. Heterosexual marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are property, blacks can't marry whites, and divorce is illegal. 6. Gay marriage should be decided by people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of the minorities. 7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America. 8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall. 9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract. 10. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children. 11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven't adapted to things like cars or a longer lifespan. 12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "separate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages for gays and lesbians will. And if you don't see the invisible sarcasm tags, then... wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy 60 Posted December 12, 2005 lol, nice I love sarcasm :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GI_Admiral 2 Posted December 12, 2005 Hey! Dont make fun of my blindness! But yes, Nice list! :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander 0 Posted December 12, 2005 How can one see *invisible* sarcasm tags? Something being invisible implies that no one can see it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy 60 Posted December 12, 2005 How can one see *invisible* sarcasm tags? Something being invisible implies that no one can see it! Perhaps the comment about invisible sarcasm tags actually had invisible sarcasm tags around it. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GI_Admiral 2 Posted December 13, 2005 But it could have invisible sarcasm tags around THAT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
