TheUnknown 39 Posted November 18, 2004 I am more likely to vote Green or write-in Howard Dean (please run!!) than vote for McCain though. It's easier to pick out angry liberals from the ranks of the Greens than it is from the Republicans. I should my fellow Democrats endorse the likes of those spineless, heartless, mindless, gutless, ballness panderers like Lieberman or Bayh, that may very well happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GI_Admiral 2 Posted November 18, 2004 lol we'll have to see platforms though before we really decide Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radioactive Isotope 29 Posted November 19, 2004 which won't be for a couple years yet. :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ender 8 Posted November 19, 2004 Howard Dean is SUCH a scumbag. He's SUCH a coward. And what the hell's with that yell? Oh well, we've already had ONE draft-dodger as President... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GI_Admiral 2 Posted November 19, 2004 We've had more than one Ender.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUnknown 39 Posted November 20, 2004 Howard Dean is SUCH a scumbag. He's SUCH a coward. And what the hell's with that yell? Oh well, we've already had ONE draft-dodger as President... Howard Dean would have/would make a great President. Much better than Bush, who was a real draft dodger. Dean had a medical condition and Clinton had a college exemption. Bush got family influence to get him into the National Guard so he could defend the skies of Texas and Alabama from the Viet Cong. But quite frankly, I would be less likely to support someone who DIDN'T try anything and everything to get out of the collosal mistake that was the Vietnam War. And I watched the so-called scream LIVE. It was nothing, but something overblown by a media (CNN admitted to playing it like hundreds of times. And those actually at the rally said that could hardly hear Dean over the roar of the crowd.) that at best did not get Howard Dean and at worst was out to get him. I'm leaning toward the former for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mirax 3 Posted November 20, 2004 Bill RIchardson won't make it. He'd be a good Vice-President to help get the Latin vote. But he can't overcome the colour of his skin with the white name. Besides he's not as great as the spin would have you believe. Dean.... I can't put my finger on it, but something's always struck me as wrong with that guy. But hell, we have Bush for another 4 years and he grated on me from the beginning. Oh and don't puke Unknown... thanks to our majority ruled fuer... err President, we have such global events as the Fallujah incursion happening. Did Kerry really have the something to fall back on to try to reunite the nation? America has always been a place for fanatic religious types. He can at least reunite us all under the flag of Christianity and Democracy for all no matter what the rest of the citizens of Earth want. *tries hard not to choke* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GI_Admiral 2 Posted November 20, 2004 Unite us under Christianity?... America isn't made up of only one religion. Bush isn't a good christian that he claims to be, and he claims that he was chosen by God and that God supports America and only America due to himself being president. We might as well have the pope in charge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mirax 3 Posted November 20, 2004 I am well aware that America doesn't consist of only one religion. That was tongue in cheek and what I was referring to. However the vast majority are Christian of one form or another. We have been on a road of Pax Americana for quite a some time, he is just another in a long line. It's the movtivating factor of a large section of the populace. It's ingrained and taught. I don't know if it'll ever be unlearned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ender 8 Posted November 20, 2004 Yeah yeah, I've heard the Dean medical dodge before. He showed up at the draft board, faked X-rays and doctor's note in hand, got out, then went to Aspen for a month of skiing. Medical excuse my ass. And President Bush didnt dodge the draft. At least he served. Flying an F-102 fighter-bomber in the Air National Guard is much harder than skiing. Hey, Unknown, I want you to do something. Go to your local National Guard base and call them all draft dodgers. I'm sure they'll warm up to you quick, which will get you off to a GREAT political career, I'm sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roethlisberger 0 Posted November 20, 2004 Yeah yeah, I've heard the Dean medical dodge before. He showed up at the draft board, faked X-rays and doctor's note in hand, got out, then went to Aspen for a month of skiing. Medical excuse my ass. I have no idea if that's true or not, but that sounds like pure Republican proaganda. Why the hell do the Republicans try to undermine their opponents by digging up dirt (which may or may not be true) on them as opposed to showing the merits of their candidate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GI_Admiral 2 Posted November 20, 2004 Just cause he learned how to fly compared to skiing doesnt make him a war hero, facts are facts, he still dodged that draft with his family influence and money. Theres no way to argue out of it. You just start to confirm peoples sterotypes of republicans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ender 8 Posted November 21, 2004 He didnt dodge the goddamn draft! He served in the military, thus going to do what he would have done, if he was drafted. That's a lot better than what Dean or Clinton or Kucinich did! I never said that he was a war hero, either. There is definitely a war to argue out of it. I just did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roethlisberger 0 Posted November 21, 2004 So maybe Clinton dodged the draft. But so did Millions of other young Americans at the time. You might've too if you've lived in the time. Clinton had little idea that he was going into politics during Vietnam, and it's possible that many other prominent Republicans dodged the draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake 53 Posted November 21, 2004 The warmth from all the love in America is giving Canada a warm winter. :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GI_Admiral 2 Posted November 21, 2004 Its more than just possible... Janson, He bought his way into a at home position to avoid being drafted and going overseas.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsl 7 Posted November 21, 2004 It wasn't just Bush though. Lot's of young guys with friends and family in high places did the same. Hell, I wouldn't done it too, so I can't blame him. I can't say he's any better for having done that then Clinton and others are for doing what they did though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roethlisberger 0 Posted November 22, 2004 The warmth from all the love in America is giving Canada a warm winter. A nice change. :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radioactive Isotope 29 Posted November 22, 2004 couldja give Kentucky a warm winter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roethlisberger 0 Posted November 22, 2004 Sure. Bush's policies will give us global warming...never mind, that'll eventually make the world cooler. America (The Book), The Writers of the Daily Show's reasons for global temperature going up 1.2 degrees every ten years: 59.0-60.2: El Nino 60.3-61.4: La Nina 61.5-62.6: Angry Sun 62.7-63.8: It's just you 63.9-65.0: Cold Shortage 65.1-66.2: Great Barbeque Craze of 2065 66.3-67.4: Cow flatulence/equine irritable bowel syndrome 67.5-68.6: Dude, you're wearing a sweater! 68.7-69.8: Hmm... this is odd. Let us study this for 30 years and get back to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ender 8 Posted November 23, 2004 (edited) Heheheh... that book is so hilarious. 1492: America Discovers White People :p Edited November 23, 2004 by Ender Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roethlisberger 0 Posted November 24, 2004 Germany: Some countries look at third world countries and say "I've never seen a country in such bad shape." ... This doesn't happen in Germany. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUnknown 39 Posted December 4, 2006 HERE'S AN UPDATE: Running/Forming an Exploratory Committee Senator John McCain (Arizona) Former Mayor Rudolph Guiliani (New York City) Outgoing Governor Tom Vilsack (Iowa) Senator Evan Bayh (Indiana) Not Running Senator Russ Feingold (Wisconsin) Former Senator Bill Frist (Tennessee) Former Governor Mark Warner (Virginia) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chickenman 9 Posted December 4, 2006 John McCain is a hero, but he's swung much to far to the right lately. A pity. :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
