Politics

[samusaran253 0]

Our Conservatives are more central and less extremist than yours.

Your British "Conservatives" (assuming you can call them that) also hate freedom and banned guns.

[Ana 15]

Drake is Canadian, Sam. :p

[samusaran253 0]

Drake is Canadian, Sam.

My bad.

[Andy 60]

Our Conservatives are more central and less extremist than yours.

Your British "Conservatives" (assuming you can call them that) also hate freedom and banned guns.

Why any common British civilian would need to own a gun is beyond me. Totally unnecessary.

Edited June 5, 2011 by beeurd

[Tsl 7]

To shoot other British civilians of course! Duh, B!

:p

[Pandora 77]

Our Conservatives are more central and less extremist than yours.

Your British "Conservatives" (assuming you can call them that) also hate freedom and banned guns.

Why any common British civilian would need to own a gun is beyond me. Totally unnecessary.

Because the only civilians that gun-banning laws disarm are the law-abiding ones that weren't going to go on a crime spree anyway. Just sayin'.

[Andy 60]

Our Conservatives are more central and less extremist than yours.

Your British "Conservatives" (assuming you can call them that) also hate freedom and banned guns.

Why any common British civilian would need to own a gun is beyond me. Totally unnecessary.

Because the only civilians that gun-banning laws disarm are the law-abiding ones that weren't going to go on a crime spree anyway. Just sayin'.

That doesn't answer the question of why we would need a gun in the first pleas. ;)

[Drake 53]

Exactly right, Andy.

You say the only people it takes away from are law-abiding citizens? Has anyone heard stories from Canada or England about mass school shootings? Snipers taking out civilians? No.

Besides, you can get permits to carry guns here. However, handguns shorter than 4.14 inches are illegal to own/carry here (unless you're a cop).

[Princess 35]

So with the GOP campaigning hard, I can't help but think about the jobs that they AREN'T doing right now and the fact that they're sure as hell still getting their congressional and gubernatorial salaries. If you or I don't go to work, we don't get paid, but they sure as hell are.

[Radioactive Isotope 29]

I believe that in Idaho, the state legislators have to pay their own way to the annual meetings. They also have to hold down a job in their home districts because the pay they get for being legislators is crap. Let's have that on a national scale. :p

[Princess 35]

I agree. I don't get paid at Job A to go on an interview to Job B

[Winters 0]

In regards to the above discussion on guns. I'm a strong liberal but I believe that the problem with guns is not with legal owners (although there are some) but with those who are mentally ill with legal guns and those who obtained the guns illegally. There simply needs to be more accountability on the distribution of guns (legally bought but sent to places elsewhere for illegal means) and the obvious illegal street guns. So there needs to be a way to figure this out without stepping on everyone's toes, politically and legally.

Plus, I also kinda want to own several historically important weapons. So... yeah...

[Ayingel 24]

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[Andy 60]

Don't know who he is or how real this is, but it made me laugh.

http://laughingsquid.com/congressman-thinks-the-onions-satirical-article-on-abortionplex-is-real/

[Princess 35]

Ugh, I've had to block some people's status updates because I'm so sick of them spamming for candidates

[Princess 35]

So, while watching The Daily Show right now, they're showing Rick Santorum's political sign, and the hashes around the O in Santorum looks like a pack of birth control pills.

[Andy 60]

Well, if the exit polls are anything to go by then the UK just voted itself to oblivion.

I am so tired of elections. We are supposed to have a General Election once every 5 years - this is the third within the past 5 years.

 

Edit: Just realised how old this thread is. ?

Edited December 12, 2019 by Andy

[TheUnknown 39]

The UK election is depressing, even more so when the centrist idiots over here try to say that Labour lost because its leader was a liberal, meaning Democrats can't possible nominate an actual progressive.

[Andy 60]

They don't like him because he's liberal? I thought they wouldn't like him because he's a socialist. ?

Sadly Brexit overshadowed the whole election. People who were dead set on making sure we left the EU voted Conservative (or Brexit Party, if they couldn't bear to vote Tory), while people who wanted to stop Brexit voted for the Liberal Democrats. As Labour had (understandably) refused to pick a side they ended up stuck in the middle, and while their manifesto was good pulled some of their voters one way or another, causing them to lose out on seats that have always been Labour seats over this. 

At least Boris Johnson was gracious enough to acknowledge in his acceptance speech that some people who don't normally vote Conservatives had switched sides, and that it might have only been temporary to "get Brexit done". The new government has a duty now to make sure they don't alienate those new voters or they will be in trouble in five years time when the next General Election comes round.

The result in Scotland is worrying. They will almost certainly gave a second referendum on independence from the UK, although Westminster is unlikely to allow it. Similarly in Northern Ireland, Sinn Fein (Irish nationalist party) made gains. They are also active in the Republic of Ireland, and one of their core tenants is to see a united Ireland.

I'm not sure if it is even overdramatic to say this could be the beginning of the end for the United Kingdom. Personally, I think one way to save the union would be to reorganise the UK into a federal structure, with more powers being devolved from Westminster to the regions. There is already a separate Northern Ireland Assembly, Welsh Assembly, and Scottish Parliament, all with various (and unequal) powers that have been devolved from the UK Parliament; but I'd like to see the powers be equalised and extended, with new regional assemblies being created for areas of England, such as Cornwall, the North, Midlands, etc. Interestingly, the seven Anglo-Saxon Kingdoms (East Anglia, Essex, Kent, Mercia, Northumbria, Sussex, and Wessex) still have enough enough cultural heritage remaining to be used as a base for creating such divisions. Cornwall has also been calling for it's own assembly for many years.

Edited December 13, 2019 by Andy

[TheUnknown 39]

I wonder what will happen with Northern Ireland.  The leftist, nationalist parties made gains at the expense of the right-wing unionist parties (along with the Alliance gaining a seat).  I wonder if some people who aren't even Catholics might just say, "You know what? Maybe being a part of Ireland might be better than being part of the UK."

[Andy 60]

Who knows? It's going to be an interesting few years to say the least.